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09-23-2007 12:21 PM


One of the things which bothered me is how Lyn has a bug up his about Loudon real estate collapsing and being "Ground Zero" for the complete collapse of the economy as we know it. If you were to look up the numbers you find that 4 states, Ca, Fl, Nv and Az, make up the bulk of the subprime loan mess and defaults. If you remove those states, then the rate of foreclosures actually has dropped.

But, remember that everything which is being presented by the cult is to retain the yute in the cult, not to actually do anything productive. A typical dopey drop out LYM has not a clue what it means that non owner occupied units are the primary source of defaults, or what overcapacity means in relation to home and condo sales and financing or how the increase in home foreclosures does not mean that the demand for homes, at the right price is lower.

Whatever the yutes do in squawking about with their The Homeowners and Bank Protection Act of 2007 is really not new. In my day we did the same posturing for "The Emergency Agricultural Act of ...." where we said that if it was not passed the USA would starve under Rockefeller. Later we had the McCormack Fusion Bill where if that did not pass we would have no electricity and in between there were various municipal debt bills thrown in . The bottom line is that it did not matter what the problem was. The way you have to see this is that Lyn's fairy tale bills are written not to solve the initial problem, but attack whatever evil delusionary enemy was ours at the time.

Besides being used to scare very naive yutes, could there be something else Lyn has not told the yutes about Loudon county real estate, hmmmm?

Could it be that Lyn and the LC are the original no money down, sub prime borrowers who lost every piece of property in a flurry of lunacy and laughter ? A lunacy and laughter bordering on the sinking of the Titanic with a chorus and band playing to the end as the SS Larouche went down?

We set the WABAC machine to the early 1980s when it is full steam ahead for leaving NYC and moving on to Leesburg. Very few members knew of the whole picture and exactly how much money we were both raising and spending in the tiny hamlet of Leesburg. I will admit that I myself have no full idea of every purchase and loss, just the shiny brochures, the press reports and some hilarious eyewitness accounts and the many helpful tidbits provided by present and former members.

What the yutes need to keep in mind is that what ever you read and hear is really for you, not the general public. The general public knows Lyn is nuts and that is why after FOUR DECADES of intensive work by Lyn, there are fewer subscribers, income and members than ever. When foreclosure rates rise the trick is to scare you away from thinking of leaving the cult by feeding you endless nightmares and catastrophes.

Ya know, if you read enough of these crazy memos over the past THREE DECADES, it turns out that Lyn predicted every failure, hidden agent and collapse/setback of the LC/LYM. An incredible feat when you figure that almost every leader and half of the membership would have been predicted by Lyn as to be leaving years before they actually left.

Think about that yutes as these crazy memos get churned out a few weeks after we entertain everyone here with new fun.

09-23-2007 12:23 PM


Why does this stuff work on a yute and not me? Well for one thing, I have been through several cycles of oversupply, undersupply, economic slowdowns high mortgage rates, refinancing and buying and selling houses for my family since leaving the cult. Yutes on the other hand, have a working knowledge of mortgages and homes limited to renting an apt and thinking that 4 adults to one bedroom is the norm and the whole economy is about to collapse.

Yutes, within 3 years of leaving the cult completely we purchased our first home at a fantastic price because of an oversupply of homes and higher foreclosure rates due to unaffordable increases in housing which forced a shakeout. There is a whole other universe of people and investors who are ready to pounce on properties when the numbers work for them. Many of us are on our second or third home as we bought and sold to our advantage. Yutes in the same period are usually on their second or third rental apt as they get booted out and find new ways to fit more LYM into a given volume.

Today I will help the yutes who come to the DC area with a

Larouche Leesburg Road Tour Guide 2007!!!!

That's right folks. Someone like Michelle Lerner and the DC LYM was probably just born when Lyn and the crew invested a few million into Leesburg-area real estate. You want some statistics about this?

Consider that so far, from what I have seen or heard, Larouche has a 100 PERCENT rate in losing property and homes in Loudon County. I can not get the full story because like everything else done in the LC, things were compartmentalized so that almost no one knows the full story. It seems that Larouche and the LC were the original sub prime borrowers when you see how things were put together.

So fill up the Larouchemobile with 20 bucks of regular, a set of jumper cables and start down Route 7 to Leesburg.

Oh, make sure you tune the AM radio to 1520 on the dial. I will explain later and a little Sinatra and Tony Bennet won't hurt you.

As you drive down Route 7 from DC, pay attention to the many buildings and developments which line both sides. When we first scouted Leesburg most of the land on either side was vacant as you got close to Leesburg. We picked up some property in the area with our REIT style operation.

We mentioned the Cardinal Park properties previously. According to press accounts, we bought a 9.8 acre tract which people say bordered on Rte 7 and what is now Cardinal Park. When you yutes drive to Leesburg, keep a look out on the left and when you see the Auto Nation Honda dealership, picture a non linear 9.8 acre site bordering the Hwy. To make this easy for you, a 9.8 acre plot is about what 9 football fields with out the end zones are in area. An acre is about 91% of a football field without the end zones. According to the nice brochures we printed, that area was to be the future home of our offices and distribution operations. This gets confusing as the Wash Post has the printing company or PMR occupying some of the 60,000 sq feet we were going to build. At other times we were told that we secured a site in Sterling to build for PMR which was better for heavy truck distribution for expanding the business. One way to clarify this is just ask Ed Spannaus about what happened to the property and plans. He gave many of the leadership a tour of the site. Since Lyn has reduced Ed to just about nothing , he should have plenty of time to talk and remenisce about the old days. If you are pretty brave, give Marcia M. a call and ask her what happened to both the money, and the investor as both may have been screwed. Today's printing operation now occupies what a cheap office copier occupies before the leasing company hauls it away.

09-23-2007 12:41 PM


Here is a map you can follow. If you hit the bypass, you went too far.


Some of these maps may work. If not, just plug in the url address.

The office buildings across Cardinal Park Drive from the Honda dealer are where the LYM is registered as a LLC . I hope they paid their ovedue fees. As you pass the buildings start to wave goodbye to it just as Ed Spannaus and Lyn did many years ago.

Next we proceed on Route 7 to Leesburg and under the overpass and eventually you will run into South King Street. Look for 27 South King and park the car. Before you turn it off, make sure you packed the jumper cables. We bought that building and put a boatload of money into remodeling it to be used as a bookstore. That sounds not too bad, but when the store becomes a card table shrine on steroids, then watch out. McDonald's had the "Golden Arches" and Lyn has the "Golden Souls" and the bookstore I was told was not going to carry any books by Lyn's illusory enemies. Well, that pretty much means that virtually anyone who ever lived is on that list. So imagine a big retail space with nothing but piles and piles of Lyn writings and a town where Lyn and the LC insulted everyone and accused the local notables of being KGB agents, and you can guess the rest.

Instead of discount flyers and special sales or showing the new store and inventory, the whole event revolves around Lyn accusing Kissinger of wanting to assasinate him and accusing everyone of being KGB agents. Excuse me, agents of influence.

For some reason, which maybe Ed Spannaus and the other deadenders can explain, the bookstore went under, but was reborn a few blocks down the street at 107 S King. Now we had a worse store in a worse location and a few more episodes of Larouche insanity I will mention later.

Still, the 27 South King Street store really was a nice building and later it had a few other businesses in it. Now here is something quite funny to think about. A former member who said FU to the cult opened up an antique business in the 27 South King Street bookstore and ran a prosperous business. So the only LCer who had enough business sense to make a buck in the building was an ex-LCer. Imagine walking into an antique store to buy something and the first thing the owner tells you is that Henry Kissinger is out to assassinate him. Only in the Bizarro world of Larouche is that a sales greeting.

09-23-2007 12:49 PM

xlcr4life Guest

The bookstore today is in the hands of Public Enemy number one of Lyn's. How do you think he feels knowing that his bookstore is now known as the "English Manor Gardens and Interiors"?

So much for Lyn's grand expertise as a business consultant.

Yutes, here is the map of the area so you can find the bookstore.

On the way to the 107 S King St bookstore, grab yourself an ice cream with the spare change you sung for last night in Georgetown and walk a few blocks past our former National Office in the Wheat Building. That was a rental property we had while supposedly our executive offices and printing plant were being constructed on Rte 7 and Cardinal Park. When our whole loan scam came crashing down, this building was raided in 1986 and a few years later we abandoned it for the warehouses of Sycolin Road.

Now you can start the Larouchemobile up (make sure you have jumper cables before you start this trip yutes) and wave goodbye to yet another property Lyn and the gang spent money on and lost from day one.

Head south down S King Street and it will become Route 15, James Monroe Hwy. You want to make a right at Route 704, Harmony Church Road. Drive a little bit and when you see Dunlop Mill rd on the left, slow down. Approaching on the left is one of the earlier Lyn homes on 25 acres or so. It was a rental and we paid the money to a Swiss -based agent for ballet star Rudolph Nureyev.

09-23-2007 12:53 PM

xlcr4life Guest

Look at the hybrid map and locate the Red Star. Below that and everything west of 704 is the property..

It would be a good idea to call up Barbara or George and ask for the transcrips of the trials or depositions where Lyn explains that he has no idea of how something like this just magically shows up one day, completely stocked with food, utilitities, rent payments and such. This estate featured a guesthouse, smokehouse, riding stables, a greenhouse along with a big parking lot we paved for the security Larouchemobiles. This house was rejected for long-term use because it was too close to the highway.

Besides Lyn's transcripts, ask for the Alexandria Federal trial testimony of Rick Magraw. After reading how Lyn has no idea of where this all comes from you can read where Magraw (who was testifying for the prosecution in that trial, yutes) describes how he recieves a few thousand in cash to pay the boys, and take care of Lyn and Helga. Where does this cash come from? Why from the finance office of the LC.

Here is another funny thing from that trial about Lyn and taxes. Kharma came back to knock Lyn into a jail cell for his problems with the Jews. The IRS witness for the prosecution in the trial was named Elizabeth Jeu! The intial spelling of the stenographer in the transcripts is Elizabeth Jew, but she quickly changes it to Jeu.

09-23-2007 12:55 PM


Now I have to thank Rick for helping put Lyn away for tax fraud. In his testimony he tries to make the case that people in the US gov wanted Larouche out of NYC and in a safer place like suburban DC. Rick then mentions that Danny Murdoch was the person who suggested Woodburn, the Nureyev place. In reading this I am expecting Rick to reveal that the US gov issued the funds to make Lyn a Gov witness for this whole plan. Instead, when asked where the money is coming, from we find out that the answer is Rick's wife Kathy Magraw in "the finance office". "The finance office" is where? Why it is part of the whole Larouche org, controlled and run by Lyn in the first place! Thus we have Lyn in his campaign to to the death against the Soviets for world domination being convinced by a scam CIA grifter that money needs to flow from the LC to rent a Russian house managed by a Swiss conglomerat e! Did any body ever think of how utterly hillarious this sounds when you read it out loud?

In essence, Lyn's defense is that he has no idea where and how all of the these houses, plane tickets, clothes, food etc show up, but his security side kick Rick Magraw is getting weekly cash to pay for all of this from Lyn's own operations! Boy, Lyn was Enron and Tycho decades before they were busted for similar tricks.

Thanks Rick, you did a great job, no wonder you were on the Government witness list.

Ok, let us move on to the next stop on our tour. We can either backtrack towards downtown Leeesburg or stay on Hwy 704. Either way you want to be on the Hwy 7 Harry Byrd bypass, slightly west of Leesburg.

Here is a map of where you want to be:

09-23-2007 12:57 PM


Now this is it. This where Lyn became:

The Mac Daddy of Leesburg.

Yes, the famous Ibykus Farms. A somewhat serene place of rolling hills and gentle lawns where horses and dogs can roam in peace. A place where one ponders if Helga lets one of her infamous beer farts rip in the woods, and no one from security hears it, does it exist???

Ibykus was a 171 ACRE estate outside of Leesburg where Lyn was well known by the local townspeople. The townspeople loved Lyn so much that Lyn had to give them their own version of Cuban frogmen emerging from the Hudson River to assassinate him.

Even in this delusion, some of the bad guys still speak Spanish for some reason and the others emerge from a place colder than the Hudson River..... Canada.

This is from the NY Times on April 11 , 1986

Mr. LaRouche's guns have raised eyebrows even here in the hunt country of Loudoun County. "I have a major personal security problem," Mr. LaRouche said in one leaflet, written while he was seeking permits for his bodyguards to carry concealed weapons. Without the permits, he said, "the assassination teams of professional mercenaries now being trained in Canada and along the Mexico border may be expected to start arriving on the streets of Leeburg. If they come, there will be many people dead or mutilated within as short an interval as sixty seconds of fire."

Lyn is the original OPM (Other People's Money) Cult gangster. Nothing is in his name and no money is raised by him, though he controls the spending and allocation. No matter how big Lyn's head is, the delusions inside were multiplying at a dizzying rate until a mere 25 acres was not sufficient to confine them all. A sort of new zoo had to be obtained to hold these many delusions and without spending a dime of his own money, he found his home a few miles west of Leesburg. A place where the dogs, horses and delusions could roam in peace without a worry in the world of what the members were being put through at the time.

The property was purchased with some strange financing by us. In a normal universe one either pays cash or puts down some money and finances the rest. In our case, we were such deadbeats based on our history that I know of that normal financing was not going to work. Somehow we found a supporter from Texas who put up $400,000 and financed the balance. Now understand that this 171 acre estate was being sold at a bargain basement price by an elderly person for an incredible sum of $1.3 million! I would have thought that we would have bought this through some trust to keep it in our portfolio for years and turn it into a sort of campus for the think tank I delusionally thought we were creating in Leesburg.

But this is the bizarro world of the LC, so you know nothing will be done right.

09-23-2007 12:58 PM


Let us go to the Jan 13th , 1985 Washington Post and see what happened.

In addition, last fall Spannaus signed a contract to buy a 171-acre estate outside Leesburg for $1.3 million, according to documents on file in Loudoun Circuit Court. The estate includes a 14-room manor house with eight fireplaces, plus three other houses and numerous other buildings. But a legal snag developed. One of the sellers, an elderly District of Columbia resident, is legally incompetent, and any sale would have required approval of a judge. The sellers' lawyer, George Schweitzer, said in court documents that he was "not totally satisfied" with the buyer's financial condition. A source said that the reason was that the LaRouche associates would not supply the financial statement thought to be necessary to get court approval.

Charles Ottinger, Publication Equities' Leesburg lawyer, said Spannaus then told him that he had agreed to have someone else take over his right to buy the estate. The new buyer, multimillionaire Oklahoma oilman David Nick Anderson, also agreed to buy the property for $1.3 million, but under slightly different terms, according to court documents.

Anderson donated $1,000 to LaRouche's presidential campaign last February, according to documents on file at the Federal Election Commission. Despite repeated telephone messages left for him, Anderson could not be reached for comment about his plans for the property.

OMG, Ed Spannaus is here, just another nail for Lyn to pound into his LC coffin I guess. This was a very interesting time in the LC regions. The money for field members was reduced to 5 bucks a day and many people learned about the eviction process when they came home and saw the papers on their front door. Very few people knew of the real estate purchases and this was a deep secret in the regions and was explained as being absolutely essential using the old "Security for Lyn" reason. This is an era where as soon as the sun will rise, there will be another assassination plot in the briefing with more people involved and more money being transferred away from the regions into this black hole.

09-23-2007 12:59 PM


Most members had no idea that an important part of Lyn's security requrements were a 14-room manor with eight fireplaces and a few guest houses. This created a real crazy world in which you were considered real special to be invited to the house. On Factnet for years I wrote about how we had our singers and musicians show up there and basically be minstrels for Lyn and Helga. I said that for humor as I often noticed how some of our starving local members who had talent would look forward to the trip so they could eat a decent meal there. Yutes, you really have to get the trial and deposition transcripts from Barbara as there is testimony by one of our members who took these trips and used the words minstrel to describe their feelings there.

Part of Lyn's incredible legal brilliance was to portray himself as not knowing a single thing about how all of this materialized before him. Maybe Lyn was a Star Trek fan and thought that the FEF built him a transporter and beamed everything to Leesburg while he slept. Lyn and Helga had great plans for the place and one of them was naming it "Ibykus Farm".

You will not see this today, but we had gates with pillars at the entrance and Lyn commissioned a plaque with "Ibykus Farm" to be placed on the great Pillars to show the world his brilliance. This led to a humorous event in Ibykus folklore which was shared by a few people with me.

Lyn ordered the NEC and a few others to show up for a ceremony at the Pillars to Ibykus one day. Workman installed a neat plaque with the words "Ibykus Farm" and it was covered up for the ritual. The NEC was startled when Lyn came out of the main house dressed like an English squire coplete with a tweed jacket, leather elbow patches, an English cap, rubber boots and a very stiff walk. He led the NEC on a stroll to the front gate and blabbed about how this was a great investment he made! A few NEC members were aghast and Lyn corrected him self to say that this was an Org investment.

Recently I have been calling the LYM clubhouses soup kitchens as they have group meals prepared by the remaining boomers. Lyn does have profound influence and is years ahead of everyone else. One of Lyn's VP candidates was Billy Davis, a farmer who ended up so bad after meeting us that I can not post the whole story yet. Davis was NOT the recently arrested VP candidate's of Lyn arrested for alleged for incest named Rev James Bevel. That VP should have his trial next year.

Anyway, Lyn announced to the NEC along the pathway that he has big plans to breed a special herd of cattle and this would supply the LC with meat to eat!!! Davis was asked to leave eveything in his life and work Lyn's farm and that including growing crops and breeding cattle.

The moment arrived and the after some more talk by prideful Lyn , he ordered the cloth removed and laughter broke out among the NEC as the marble plaque was installed UPSIDE DOWN! Lyn was shocked in his special clothes and sulked away back to the main house.

My memory may be spotty, but I think there are two pictures of Lyn which we had in New Solidarity or New Fed at the time. One was in the English outfit while another had him in jeans and a flannel shirt, no bowtie. The person who may have the original pictures may be Phil U. We had two photographers, Phil and Stuart Lewis. Phil U is probably the one with the pictures as he was a regular at the house. Helga liked his cooking while Lyn liked his wine stewardship. One day we will talk about what Lyn did to Phil U when he brought him a not so good vintage.

09-23-2007 01:01 PM


When you are on the side of the road where Ibykus stood, turn off AM 1520 WTRI for a bit as we will go from Sinatra to Shelley. Shed a tear to the now torn down great pillars and read a poem called


I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Oh, did anyone tell the yutes what was done with Lyn's property?

To find out what happened you can ask Lonnie, Ed Spannaus, Barbara, and even Lyn (you could have asked Uwe Friesecke, Linda de Hoyos, and Ken Kronberg too, but two are out of the org and one is dead) . Please do ask Ed, Barbara, Lonnie, et al. because for years I could not get a straight answer about how the property was refinanced back and forth until it was lost for good. Since Anderson held the note, I doubt that we had any claim to the property since I know our history of paying notes. The LC only pays attention to c=256 notes and hardly paid other notes. In this kind of wacky financing I can only think of my experience in owning homes. I would never put money into expensive improvements if I could not make the monthly payments and had wild financing like the LC had. To make Helga happy we put a boatload of money into a swimming pool and horsey stuff while members were given 5 bucks a day.

One must understand how the LC does finances. There is no finance committee or spread sheets made up and analysis done like in a tradional business, non profit or even your own household budget. No matter what you think is going on, once the magic words "Lyn say's" are heard, then you do what ever, no matter how inane or insane it is. A property like Ibykus is a bargain at 1.3 million dollars; however, it takes a lot of money to run it and that is what was draining the weekly income. Routine maintainance, utilities, food , cleaning besides the monthly mtge payment quickly add up. Lyn and the LC became a model of what is facing many sub prime borrowers today who overbuy, overspend and have no common sense about money. After all, this is the Bizarro world of Larouche where you do not like accountants, money and budgeting. One gets the sense that as long as Lyn an d Helga had members working as cheap help, all was good. The LC help got 5 bucks a day, in the testimony you can read where Rick Magraw paid the security people 20 bucks a day. The phony CIA scam artists and other hustlers had to be laughing their <font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font><font color="ff0000"></font> off once they left Ibykus knowing that they were getting thousands each week by filling Lyn's head with one delusion after another. Phil U filled Lyn's glass with Rheingau and is still paying the price for this to this day. One thing about Rheingau, it is not cheap and we bought it by the case.

It looked the party would never end and when Lyn was sent to prison, dreams of Ibykus filled his head nightly. The party did come to an end when after several refinancing schemes it was all over and to this day Lyn carries the grudge against Fernando, de Hoyos, Uwe F, Ken Kronberg--and even Lonnie--for its loss.

09-23-2007 01:03 PM


Lyn talks about Leesburg being ground zero for real estate collapse, Ibykus is the real ground zero. It was sold and eventually became a site where one plot can sell for what the whole 171 acres was bought for! When you drive into the Ibykus property you should look for the signs that say "Beacon Hill" Yes! Lyn's Shangri la is now a very upscale development where Ibykus is now known as BEACON HILL an EQUESTRIAN & GOLF COMMUNITY !!!

Check this out yutes.

Look on the opening page for this:

More Info and photos coming soon. Take a VisualTour of this neihborhood here .

and click on "here" and take the visual tour. Let the soothing New Age Satanic music relax your card table shrine-challenged vocal chords and breathe in and out to clear your carcinogen- filled lungs from your off-ramp deployments. Take the tour and when it starts again, go to the third picture with the barn, THE BARN.

Awhile back I posted one of Lyn's famous "Sermons from the Barn" about the future of the LC. Here it is , from Dec 20 1987 to the members in THE BARN.

LAROUCHE Dec. 20, 1987: "Creativity is one of my obsessions. If you don't have creative insight, you can't see how we can win; if you can see how we can win, then we will win. Only we can save the world; only we can do the job, because nobody else even knows what the job is. Would you like to be the savior of humanity? ... Yes, I was chosen. You were chosen. Not with fanfare, not with the blaring trumpets of archangel Gabriel. It doesn't happen that way. It happens as you walk down the street thinking about the problems of the world and realize only you can do the job ... You are chosen. Like John Scialdone's lawyer said to the jury: 'You poor schmucks'! ... Look around you. Who will support us? Who will rally to us? The ones who will rally to us are the emotionally crippled, the grey-faced, the neurologically impaired who, in rallying to us will do the only worthy thing to give meaning to their lives. Thus they will be able to say, 'I wasn't important but I contributed to victory"."

Take a look in the rear view mirror yutes, you are the "neurologically impaired".

To make this real easy for the yutes I will employ the very epitome of eeeevil , Cartesian geometry to help you locate Lyn's house and THE BARN.

First, you have to get into the property. Tell the HOA that you are here to see the Equestrian Club. Don't say that you are making a journey to MECCA aka THE BARN where the LYM was prophesied.

09-23-2007 01:06 PM


Ok, click on this map and it should be at level 13 magnification with the roads named and the picure centered properly. The intersection of the x and y lines should be a star and right next to Lyn's house. Make sure youn click on "aerial images" and are at level 13.

On the map you have, we can use the roads as a cartesian graph

X = Alysheba / Cannonade Drive

Y = Count Turf

the four quadrants in this area would be labeled

2 1

3 4

To make this easy for the yutes to see, do this. Zoom to level 15 and you will see 4 buildings with green copper roofs. They should be near Farm Market Road and occupy quadrant number 3 in our Cartesian Nightmare. The smallest of the barns is THE Barn where Lyn delivered many sermons on his holy days, the most famous being the "Neurologically Impaired" sermon. We put in a concrete floor on the barn so we could hold meetings with Lyn's Gideon's Army forces.

Now zoom back down to level 13 and go to quadrant 1 of our Cartesian Nightmare and you will see Lyn's house. Go on, call it Lyn's house though you may want to call it Helga's house or the Larouche s' house. This gets downright confusing as Lyn claimed that he has no idea where or how a 171 acre estate with a ready made mansion came to life for him. In the trials our defense was that this was all available for the LC to come and go as they please, that it wasn't really Lyn's house, that it belonged to the whole organization and that Lyn just happened to stay there when he happened to be around. In the trial you can read about Lyn welcoming guests to HIS house. Helga then complains about not being able to enjoy HER house . The LC minstrel show comes to entertain Lyn and Helga, the Rhiengau is c oming in by the case , the monthly bills are skyrocketing and most of the LC is getting 5 bucks a day.

09-23-2007 01:09 PM


Next you should zoom up to level 15 and see the scale of the house occupying quadrant 1. You will see the swimming pool Lyn had built for Helga. The house is at the corner of Count Turf Pl & Alysheba Dr . Drive ( this loops around and becomes Cannonade Dr.) around the vast acrege and see the multimillion dollar homes and golf course. You will get the idea of how utterly crazy it is for the cult to talk about real estate when it had this enormous property for a bargain basement price and then squandered it and turned into a white elephant on the finances. Not even the Moonies would do something so stupid. Each house you see is in the 2 million + range . Close to the main house of Lyn's you will see smaller guest houses where other convicted criminals like Will Wertz lived for a spell.

After touring the grounds head back out the main entrance to Rte 7 and head West . If you stay on Rte 7 you will make it to Lyn's present rental at Round Hill. We will let the IRS figure out if the payments show up as income or by putting some yutes into the basement like illegal alliens to work turns it into a different tax situation. Either way, Lyn should be telling the yutes how to live like a millionaire on just $28,000 in income I saw on one form he filed.

You want to steer the Larouchemobile a little up Rte 7 so you can get on Charles Town Pike Rd. Take that till you get to Mechanicsville and make a right on Hwy 671 or Harpers Ferry Rd. You will be heading north for a bit and slow down when you enter Neersville and see Sagle Rd on the left. Now look to the right and you will see a 68 acre farm we purchased for 400,000 dollars called Sweet water. Zoom to level 13 on the map below. It should be above the red star on the map and on the right of Harpers Ferry rd.

Ahh Sweetwater, a lovely farm of sweetsmelling field grass, nestled among old growth trees and full of life and energy as a summer camp should be. This being a Larouche project the most important thing is having armed guards with firearms as we immediately had a controversy over this and expanded the whole assassination plot to include a day camp. NOTE: The camp with the weapons training was SoVa--the locals got confused. There weren't any weapons at Sweetwater. Hell, we all were confused because SOVA was TOP SECRET.

09-23-2007 01:10 PM

xlcr4life Guest

You might as well call up poor Ed Spannaus who has nothing to do and have him explain how a prime piece of property like this was lost forever. Ed Spannaus should have plenty of stories to tell as the real estate was his baby. Those beautifull brochures I saw in the 1980s were full of fascinating forecasts by our people. We said clearly that this was a great opportunity for investment in real estate as the Route 7 corridor would undergo economic boom and Leesburg would become a very valuable holding because of its proximity to DC.

Though Sweetwater was out of the Leesburg area, it too became a valauble property. I was sent an email a little while back that of all people , Madeleine Albright purchased it and uses it as a summer home with her primary residence around the corner.

No wonder Lyn is angry as his beloved bookstore shrine is now an English Garden Store and one of his least favorite Clinton cabinet members may be enjoying the Sweet water property while Hondas are being sold near his prime Rte 7 lot. On top of that, Ibykus has someone else lounging near the pool he had built for Helga and other people are walking their dogs and riding their horses where Lyn and Helga once roamed.

OK yutes, back in the car and head basically North on Harpers Ferry road past the old forest growth and rolling pastures. Turn on the radio to AM 1520 WTRI and drive over the Potomac River where you will then be on Hwy 340 in Maryland heading East. Take Route 340 east to Exit 2, Route 17 for Brunswick/Burkittsville. Turn right at the end of the ramp and stay on Rte. 17 (becomes Souder Rd.). Go through the light at 9th St. Brunswick High School is on the left. Go another half mile to 13th Ave. and turn right. WTRI building is 200 yards on the left.

This is where you want to end up.

09-23-2007 01:14 PM


Now why would we send you to Brunswick Md to see some oldies radio station like AM 1520 WTRI?

Well, it could be becuase one of our brilliant ideas was to buy this radio station in the 1980s and set it up as a WLYN radio.

I have no idea of how much money we put in ourselves, but there were two primary owners in the initial purchase. This was a small 500 watt AM station which we bought and at the time we kept it as a Country Western Station per WLYN. WLYN sent an NEC member named Allen Salisbury who once was an advertising company man to run this along with Joe C. I think the idea was that this sation was going to get a power boost and we would be able to take over the Metro DC area with broadcasts of Lyn and other interviews. Well, you know how everything ends up when the real world meets the LC and Lyn, it all goes pfffft. The station lost some big money I was told and was eventually dumped and taken over by other buyers until the wattage was increased and now we have the present station.

Allen S lost more than the radio station as he was covered by a LaroucheCare health plan and found his life ending earlier than it should have. That story will be for another day.

If this all seems crazy, well it is. We have investors being culled by our real special fundraisers for a secret project which no one in the LC knew about except for a few people. Millions were raised on top of the credit card scams and loan operations and it seemed like Lyn was on top of the world in Leesburg with a mini empire. If one takes a look at the whole contraption called the LC/LYM one sees that what is actually in place is a cult sweat shop, and even with virtual slave labor Lyn figured out out how to have his delusions lead to more losses than anyone can imagine.

This is not even the full list as there is a whole other universe with Danny Murdoch and other people with a project called SOVA and another one called "The Farm." Jeff Steinberg is ready to take over the master suite in Round Hill, so you might as well ask him about SOVA. Paul Goldstein should be within hearing distance and ask him too.

Here is one of the stories you should find out about. Murdoch informed Security that we need a base to train people at and to do some undercover work. I was sent an email telling me that we spent almost a 1/4 million buying him a farm south of DC in Virgina for this. He then called us up and said that without some animals on the farm, the cover wil be blown. We then set him some more money to buy some horses and cows for this. The total "cost" wound up in the many millions--although it may not all have gone to cows.... Could be in some bank accounts, too. I have no idea if this was ever recorded as taxable income and declared .

09-23-2007 01:15 PM


We have more stories along these lines for people to ask Lyn about and whatever is left in Leesburg. Out road trip today is to highlight the many areas around Leesburg which were in effect Ground Zero for total real estate collapse, but were Ground Zero for Lyn and the LC. If you want to follow this lunacy for THREE DECADES and end up destitute like many of the present Leesurg LCers, drive this route and just wave goodbye to everything squandered and lost because others followed the world's greatest economist. Virtually everything and everyone who touched any of these projects lost everything in so many ways. Financially, emotionally, mentally, physically, the stories are astounding. How one man can run this charade and delsuion empire for so long? Meanwhile, while Lyn was looting the members , scam artists took Lyn and the Security staff for millions and laughed all the way to the farms we bought them.

Unlike Lyn and security, Murdoch was no dummy about operating expenses. I guess he knew that a place as big as the farm we bought him has operating expenses. In the Bizarro world of Larouche, you pay delusion creators money to take of THEIR properties and expenses while you ignore what is right in front of you. An email I recieved from Leesburg one day described how Murdoch and friends had Fearless Leader and Jeff willing to sacrifice the whole org for fairy tales. Fearless Leader means Lyn, Fearless Leiders could mean John and Renee who are fearless when it comes everything except questioning how they blew their entire adult life following a madman.

One day the grifters placed an urgent call to the Larouchephone. A new plot against Lyn was just uncovered and a hit team of assasins were now moving slowly from Southern Virginia to Leesburg to get to Lyn. Lyn and security were informed that for , say , $80,000 this threat could be stopped cold. A frantic call was placed to LaroucheHQ and in a few hours, $80,000 in cash was scrounged up. Remember what I said earlier about how a budget in the Bizarro world does not mean anything once the magic words "Lyn says" are uttered with "Security" in the same breath. Whatever expenses that particular $80,000 was destined for no longer had money to be paid.

Yutes , study this guide, drive it and figure that this is not even anywhere near the full story which will be eventually be discovered.

If the maps do not pop up, copy paste the URLs to your address box. They are really worth looking up to get the feel of this total collapse of the World's greatest economist's real estate empire which with virtual cult slave labor and bargain basement prices he could not keep.

Be on the look out for a version of this with the maps posted real soon.

09-23-2007 05:21 PM


Wow, XLCR. Great work.

It's a real "Tour de Force"...

Oops, I mean "Tour de Farce".

09-23-2007 05:34 PM


Many times we have discussed the issue of Lyn's virulent anti-semitism, especially in the days of his active alliance with the Minutemen, KKK, etc. If it hasn't already been posted, I found the link to the original publication of <u>Dope Inc.</u> which has the infamous Protocols of Zion at about pages 32-34. And there is no issue that the book directly endorses the "authenticity" of this anti-Semitic balderdash. Of course, it also contains other inflamatory crap like that the Order of Zion, headed by Judah Benjamin was the financial org. that gave the order to assassinate Lincoln, etc. To read the original edition go to and scroll through for an original wabac moment.

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